Go Deep
What?
- 40K and 20K distances on a 20K trail loop
- Go Deep: do the loop twice
- Go Home: If a beautiful 20K is all the challenge you need
- A mix of steep ascents and descents, technical terrain and fast, rolling groomed trails
- Run against others, yourself or the clock. Fun Mandatory!
When and Where?
- 8 November 2008
- Start: 8:30am
- Start / finish at Panorama Park, in Deep Cove (North Vancouver), British Columbia, CANADA
- See agenda for details on how to get there and course description
How Much?
- Free for Club Fat Ass members (check out member benefits and fees here)
- To keep hassles on the morning of the run to a minimum and allow the host to participate as well we ask to please sign up for both, the club membership and the event online and in advance.
Agenda
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| 06:30? | Get up. Check the weather. Print off this agenda so you can be sure to find the start. |
| 08:00 | Arrive at Panorama Park in Deep Cove. Find a parking spot. Check-in. |
| 08:20 | Welcome and final briefing |
| 08:25 | Photo |
| 08:30 | Start |
| 11:00 | First lap finisher? |
| 13:30 | Second lap finisher? |
| 13:00 | Finisher party |
How to get to the start?
- From Trans-Canada Highway (Highway #1) in North Vancouver, take Seymour Parkway exit heading eastward approximately 4 kilometers toward Deep Cove. At intersection with Deep Cove Road/Dollarton Highway, go left.
- continue 10 blocks along Deep Cove Road. Turn right onto Gallant Road heading toward the ocean. (Note Cove Cycles on your left.) Take first left (Panorama Drive) and park in or near the parking lot
- start/finish is in Panorama Park next to the playground between the parking lot and the beach
- additional information at http://www.deepcovebc.com/deepcovebcparks.html
What to Bring?
- bring your own food and fluids. There is a water tap at the start, but be prepared in case it is out of service.
- bring your own official timing system (a watch will do, even if the second hand doesn't work.) There will be a pen and paper at the start/finish and likely someone to record your split times.
- Don't forget a towel and change of clothes for afterward.
Post-Event
- For those left standing, a post event celebration will be held at the Mosquito Creek Grill at 13:00h. The Mosquito Creek is about 20min from the finish in the Westview Plaza at Westview and Highway #1. Their telephone number is 604-983-3083.
- Come and celebrate your accomplishment together with other runners, crew and friends. Please be sure to note how many people you plan to bring with you on your registration form so we can be sure to accommodate them
Other Notes
- one lap is 20 kilometers
- expect difficult terrain, very technical trails with lots of ascents and descents
Results
Go Deep 2007 - Results
25 August 2007 - Starter photo
Go Home Report
The Fat Ass Eastern Alliance was well-represented in the 19 fresh, frisky runners at the start of the 2007 Go Deep or Go Home event. The day started cool and overcast, as predicted, with rain holding off until well after the beers at Mosquito Creek had been downed. The dry trails kept the Deep Cove Baden-Powell and Ned’s interesting.
Curb, Geoff, Rob and Desmond, had a fast first loop. Great job guys.
We were joined by visitor Sebastian, fresh off his plane from Montreal late the night before and wondering if there would be rocks on the course. Seems Sebastian runs roads and had never run 20 K before. Kudos to Monty for keeping Sebastian on-trail and under 3 hours. That was a flying finish! Awesome job, also, for Arlene and Cynnimon who have now got the route nailed.
Lorraine took the Purple Heart, not for the cracking sound of her ankle, but for the trail-rash on her knee. Seems she had a dust-up on dusty Ned’s.
Soon-to-be birthday girl Carolyn and entourage of the running-accomplished Maple Ridge FA’ers used the run as a kick-off for a party-hard day.
Awesome day. Mellow, mellow, good vibes and karma. Many thanks to Arlene and Kinesys for the prizes and to Mosquito Creek Bar & Grill for the après-run beer!
More photos are posted at here. If you have photos of the day please upload them to Flickr.com, add to the Club Fat Ass group and tag with GoDeep2007 GoDeep ClubFatAssEvents and ClubFatAss.
Please post your own impressions of the run via your CFA blog or the comment function below.
Please take a moment to take the post event survey.
| Name | Distance | Time | Points |
| Curb Ivanic | 20km | 2:22 | 1 |
| Geoffrey Palmer | 20km | 2:22 | 2 |
| Rob Ruff | 20km | 2:24 | 2 |
| Desmond Mott | 20km | 2:31 | 3* |
| Sebastien Flamand | 20km | 2:59 | 2 |
| Monty Watts | 20km | 2:59 | 2 |
| Arlene MacAuley | 20km | 3:09 | 2 |
| Kim Taylor | 20km | 3:09 | 2 |
| Neil Ambrose | 20km | 3:10 | 2 |
| Baldwin Lee (LS 8:30) | 20km | 3:30 | 2 |
| Cynnimon Rain | 20km | 3:30 | 2 |
| Craig Moore | 20km | 3:32 | 2 |
| Carrie Walsh | 20km | 3:32 | 2 |
| Carolyn King | 20km | 3:38 | 2 |
| Marla Allen | 20km | 3:38 | 2 |
| Lorraine Suomi | 20km | 3:48 | 2** |
| Sibylle | 20km | 3:48 | 2 |
| Rhonda Schuller | Custom | 3:13 | 2 |
| Cheryl Johnson | Custom | 3:13 | 3*** |
| Philippe Flamand | DNS | -1 | |
| * 1 point for picking up garbage | |||
| ** Purple Heart Award *** EH Award | |||
My Go Deep
The run started with a relentless uphill from Deep Cove all the way to the Mushroom Parking lot. While it was a cold day for late August, we soon were hot and sweaty and I was happy not to have brought my jacket along. Lorraine and I soon fell into a nice rhythm and every once in a while we caught up with the group around Cynnimon, Craig and Carrie. Once past the parking lot we soon found ourselves on the very steep and technical Dirty Diaper trail.
I didn't realize that yesterday's Go Deep was only the second time I had run that course. No wonder I had to refer to my route descriptions a few times and at one point thought I was lost on Bridle path. Turned out Lorraine and I were on the right trail, but it sure looked different... Maybe it was all the blow downs from the winter storms or perhaps all the new bridges and steps built over the summer by the KK trail maintenance crew or the local mountain bikers. The trail classifications on Ned's and Dirty Diapers were quite funny. I prefer the green runs ;-)
Lorraine had a few tumbles, skinning her knees, smashing her food stash (a banana) and going over her ankle. Luckily, she was able to venture on, but we navigated down Neds with a bit more caution.
The Seymour Grind sure was much longer yesterday than I remembered and the sign for the Severed Dick trail (who names these trails...) at the top of the Grind was a welcome sight. Downhill from here...well almost. The rolling trail past Old Buck invited us to increase our speed - maybe a bit too early - as we slowed down the closer we got to Deep Cove. At one of the last bridges we got a good chuckle out of the reaction of a hiker to my iceberg blue Club Fat Ass shirt. The lady was going crossing the bridge when she recognized that she wore the same shirt from MEC and she called out, "nice MEC shirt, eh!" As I ran past her she read the logo on my chest and horror stricken, looked down at her chest...You could read her thoughts..."does my shirt say THAT and I haven't realized it?"
Finally at the Cove, we were welcomed by Rhonda and Cheryl (who took a bit of a short cut), Sebastien from Montreal, Craig and Carrie who had come in before us. My time was about 20 minutes faster than the last time I ran this course a few years ago.
The food (very delicious)and free beer at the Mosquito Creek Bar and Grill hit the spot....despite the waitress asking if we wanted the beer "NOW?"...it was just past 12:00 and I guess we didn't look like early afternoon drinkers ;-)Thanks Cheryl, for carrying on the Go deep tradition!
2006 - Year 3
26 August 2006 - Starter Photo
What a way to end the summer. 30 odd folks out to have fun on the North Shore trails for the 2006 Go Deep or Go Home. A lot of things on the line: course records, best wipe out, 4 primes, 4 Montrail shoes, a $2500 entry into the Rock and Ice Ultra and a few more goodies.
| Name | Distance | Time | Points |
| David Crerar | 40km | 5:32 | 2 |
| Andy Nicol | 20km | 2:10 | 2 |
| Bill Dagg | 20km | 2:16 | 2 |
| Mark Grist | 20km | 2:17 | 1 |
| John Dove | 20km | 2:17 | 2 |
| Patrick Thrift | 20km | 2:17 | 2 |
| John Macgrath | 20km | 2:18 | 1 |
| Mark Fearman | 20km | 2:18 | 2 |
| Megan Rose | 20km | 2:18 | 2 |
| Dom Repta | 20km | 2:21 | 3** |
| Wade Repta | 20km | 2:21 | 2 |
| Desmond Mott | 20km | 2:24 | 3* |
| Christine Rybak | 20km | 2:28 | 2 |
| Russ Chore | 20km | 2:28 | 2 |
| Phil Dove | 20km | 2:29 | 2 |
| Lannie Thielen | 20km | 2:30 | 1 |
| Derrick Johnstone | 20km | 2:45 | 2 |
| Adrian Lasalle-Low | 20km | 2:46 | 2 |
| Gary Robbins | 20km | 2:46 | 2 |
| Michelle Fredette | 20km | 3:00 | 1 |
| Isabelle Thielen | 20km | 3:10 | 1 |
| Arlene MacAuley | 20km | 3:10 | 3* |
| Elke Bauer | 20km | 3:20 | 2 |
| Shay Wilson | 20km | 3:30 | 2 |
| Cheryl Johnson | 20km | 3:40 | 2 |
| Cynimmon Rain | 20km | 3:40 | 2 |
| Sharon Bryson | 20km | 4:45 | 2 |
| Steve | Deller | 4:45 | 2* |
| Rhonda Schuller | 20km | Excellent Time | 2 |
| Ali Jones | Custom | 4:00 | 2 |
| John Jones | Custom | 4:00 | 2 |
| Erik Jackson | Custom | Fun Time | 2 |
| Ean Jackson | Custom | Good Time | 2 |
| Johanna Jackson | Custom | Good Time | 2 |
| Louise Oram | DNS | -1 | |
| Paul Purin | DNS | -1 |
* Bonus Point
** Event Host Point
2005 - Year 2
2005 Starter Photo
24 Starters / 24 Finishers
| 40km = 2 Loops | |||||
| # | First Name | Last Name | 1 Loop | 2 Loops | Points |
| 1 | Bill | Dagg | 2:16 | 5:13 | 2 |
| 2 | Russ | Chore | 2:26 | 5:26 | 2 |
| ? | Desmond | Stephens | ? | ? | 1 |
| 20km = 1 Loop | |||||
| # | First Name | Last Name | Time | ||
| 1 | Andy | Nicol | 2:13:00 | 2 | |
| 1 | Scott | Riddell | 2:13:00 | 1 | |
| 3 | Desmond | Mott | 2:20:00 | 2 | |
| 3 | Wade | Repta | 2:20 | 1 | |
| 5 | J.P. | Obbagy | 2:23:00 | 2 | |
| 6 | Shane | Eby | 2:26:00 | 1 | |
| 6 | Ean | Jackson | 2:26:00 | 2 | |
| 6 | Derrick | Johnstone | 2:26:00 | 2 | |
| 6 | Dom | Repta | 2:26:00 | 3** | |
| 6 | Christine | Rybak | 2:26 | 2 | |
| 11 | Craig | Moore | 3:30:00 | 3* | |
| 11 | Sue | Nicholson | 3:30:00 | 2 | |
| 11 | Cheryl | Picot | 3:30:00 | 1 | |
| 14 | Eileen | Bistrisky | 3:35:40 | 1 | |
| 14 | Ryan | Russell | 3:35:40 | 2 | |
| 14 | Diana | Mulvey | 3:35:40 | 1 | |
| 17 | Cheryl | Johnson | 4:05:00 | 2* | |
| 18 | Ruth | Capron | 5:00:00 | 1 | |
| 18 | Susan | Jensen | 5:00:00 | 1 | |
| 18 | Michelle | Porter | 5:00:00 | 1 | |
| ? | Adam | Shih | ? | 2 | |
* = earned extra point for collecting garbage
** = earned extra point for hosting
2004 - Year 1
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| 55km | 5:00am official start time |
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| 1 | 9:25:00 | Rob Mackay | Victoria |
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| 40km | 5:00am official start time |
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| 1 | 5:34:00 | Ann Taylor (7:30am start) | North Vancouver |
| 1 | 6:10:01 | Wade Repta | Vancouver |
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| 20km | 12:00am official start time |
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| 1 | 2:12:00 | Patricia Jensen | North Vancouver |
| 2 | 2:17:50 | Andy Nicol | Vancouver |
| 3 | 2:19:30 | Bill Dagg | Vancouver |
| 4 | 2:31:00 | Ron Adams | North Vancouver |
| 5 | 2:35:00 | Jim Mandelli | North Vancouver |
| 6 | 2:35:00 | Sue Nichol | North Vancouver |
| 7 | 2:42:20 | Terry Lewis | North Vancouver |
| 8 | 2:59:59 | Desmond Mott (5:00am start) | North Vancouver |
| 9 | 3:02:10 | Wendy Montgomery (5:00am start) | North Vancouver |
| 10 | 3:13:59 | Berglind Hafsteinsdottir (7:30am start) | North Vancouver |
| 11 | 3:13:59 | Laddie Hannam (7:30am start) | North Vancouver |
| 12 | 3:20:00 | Kate Dugas | Vancouver |
| 13 | 3:20:00 | Paul Hawman | Vancouver |
| 14 | 3:20:00 | Derrick Johnstone | Vancouver |
| 15 | 3:20:00 | Deanna Lindsay | Vancouver |
| 16 | 3:49:30 | Craig Moore | North Vancouver |
| 17 | 3:49:30 | Michelle Fredette-Nicol | Vancouver |
| 18 | 4:09:00 | Patricia Barry | North Vancouver |
| 19 | 4:09:00 | Sibylle Tinsel | North Vancouver |
22 starters - 22 finishers
Event Report
The inaugural Go Deep or Go Home 80/20 has come and gone and it was a great success for everyone involved. Saturday November 20 brought an amazing sun rise, cool temperatures, no rain and perfect running conditions.
Going Deep?
Starting the day off, Wendy Montgomery, Rob Mackay, Desmond Mott and Wade Repta started the difficult 20km loop at 5:00a.m. Goal distances for this group ranged from 20km to 60km. Beginning the run with headlamps, stars and the fresh air of the North Vancouver woods, this group remained running together until the final descent back into Deep Cove in the last few km of the route. Desmond Mott (2:59:59) and Wendy Montgomery (3:02:10) (just off a win at H2H 100km), decided 20km on this route was enough for one day. I decided Rob Mackay, not being a local resident, needed Wade to guide him through the route. Wade had no intention of doing another loop as he has been fighting the flu. It was a late Friday phone call by myself that actually got him to run on Saturday a.m. As Wade stopped for a washroom break before heading into lap two, Rob Mackay decided to carry on and Wade would catch up. Well, that never happened, and Wade needlessly went out after Rob. Rob found his way through the loop just fine, and Wade returned after 40km to admit he might have hoped Rob got lost (just joking of course). Rob decided he would try for three loops, but 47 km in, Ean Jackson found him dazed and confused in mushroom parking lot. Ean fed him, pointed him in the right direction, and Rob headed back to Deep Cove. 9:25:00 and 55km later, Rob Mackay ran into Deep Cove headquarters. His longest run ever, in preparation for Marathon des Sable 2005, Rob deserves a big congratulations!!!
The next crew arrived ready to run 40km at 7:30am. Ann, Berg, Laddie and Terrance Lewis headed out together. Ann and Terrance broke from the crew and ran a faster tempo. Ann felt so good she even told me upon returning from her first loop she might even do three loops. Laddie and Berg, not bringing course instructions, decided it might be wise to double back and add a few more km's to the route. They returned to Deep Cove, and contemplated another lap, but the thoughts of two laps on this course got the better of them and they decided it might be more fun to hang around and chat. Ann was the only one of the group to turn around and face the beast. As she grinded her way through the course and returning to Deep Cove, the aspirations of 3 laps were void and her first remarks to me was "that is a long 20km". Laughing, I assured her is only 20km, but a tougher 20km one might not find. She agreed and finished her 40km in 5:34:00. Not a PR but in the Go Deep or Go Home it is a CR!!
Going Home!
The noon start of the 20km distance saw 14 eager runners toeing the line ready to take on the demanding course. The ever ready Patricia Jensen was there, always one to push the pace. Andy Nicol, coming off some injuries resulting from his stunning run at Western States 100 was there to take it "easy". Veteran Ron Adams was there to share his wisdom and hammering a great run, and ultra queen from Ontario, Deanna Lindsay showed up for her first ever North Shore trail run. The usual Club Fat Ass suspects were there to round out the great turn out. There were 3 course records set. Patricia Jensen ran a monster 2:12:00 and getting the most bang for their buck was Sibylle Tinsel and Patricia Barry, taking 4:09:00 out of the Go Home 20km.
Getting ready for next weekends Seattle Marathon, Jim Mandelli and Sue Nichols ran a comfortable 2:35:00. Having Jim say it is a great course is really meaningful as he has raced all over the world in spectacular places!
Paul Hawman, running with Kate Dugas (and Lucy), Deanna Lindsay and Derrick Johnstone, had severe cramping but stuck with it and the group of 4 finished in 3:20:00. Wade and myself thought Andy Nicol would be sleeping on the couch that night for leaving spouse Michelle Fredette on the course. But after 3:49:30, Michelle ran in with Craig Moore with a smile from ear to ear. Looks like Andy got the bed. All in all, everyone returned with great stories and tired legs, but it was a great event.
Special Thanks to: Ean, Erik and Johanna Jackson, Troy Angrignon (crew); Geoffrey (donated aid station goodies), Gottfried Grosser (aid station goodies), Wendy Montgomery for donating Blurr bags for door prizes, Marc Cooney for donating Yeti Snowshoe race entry, Dave Cressman for donating Buffs, Kelly Nielson of Mosquito Creek Bar and Grill for hosting the after party and pouring a free pint to each participant; and Montrail for donating 3 pair of Montrail shoes as prizes.
Prize winners:
Buff-Desmond, Buff-Berg, Yeti Entry-Terry, Blurr Bag-Ron, Blurr Bag-Kate, Blurr Bag-Laddie, Blurr Bag-Craig, Montrail-Jim, Montrail-Sue, Montrail-Andy;
Please sign up for Mike and Melissa's run next weekend!! http://www.clubfatass.com/CABCVan_MM/
Home Registration - Background - Agenda - Course - Thanks - Results - Contact - FAQ
Background
The Go Deep or Go Home has morphed over the years. Conceived 2004 by Dom Repta as a fall ultra to fill the need for a little late season competition for both the hard core ultramarathon runner, the beginning trail runner, and everyone in-between, he realized the following year the need for more daylight during a tough 80km trail run. He moved the ultra into August and kept a 20km option (the Go Home) in the fall.
Turned out 80km might have been a bit too much to chew. While the 20km course became a favourite summer run, the 80km never took off. In 2007 Dom decided to explore organizing another ultra, a 100 miler in the Sea To Sky country, and handed event hosting over to Cheryl Johnson (Go Deep) and Des Mott (Go Home).
The Go Deep or Go Home is held almost entirely on trails in the spectacular North Shore mountains above Vancouver, Canada. The trail surface is a mix of steep ascents and descents, technical terrain and fast, rolling groomed trails with approximately 2500m (8,000') of vertical change. In order to appeal to a wide range of experience levels and abilities, the course now offers 1 or 2 loops of 20km.
In keeping with Club Fat Ass guidelines, we aim to tread lightly and leave no trace of the event on the trail or the environment. The course will not be marked with surveyor tape. Directions won't be painted on rocks. There will be no flour used at intersections or along the trail that could wash off or alert the hazardous materials squad. Written course directions that note existing signage and key landmarks can be downloaded from the Agenda page.
The Glory
- Completing either distance on some of the most spectacular trails in North America!
- Take a chance at setting the course record at one of the distances
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- Earn bragging rights
- Finish!
The Differences
This event follows the guidelines provided by Club Fat Ass for safe and successful, informal endurance sports "parties":
- It is free for Club members
- It is hosted by a Club member
- It is small and informal. Guests should come prepared for the weather and the terrain and not expect aid or course marking. They should expect to follow detailed written course instructions
- It is environmentally friendly. We aim to leave our route in better shape than it was before we passed though.
- It is as much about the camaraderie as the competition.
Guests at the event download from the Internet directions based on natural and physical landmarks. As with orienteering, those who aren't familiar with the course will pause frequently to consult the written directions, giving a slight competitive advantage to those who have trained on it. Course directions are available year 'round on this website and we encourage everyone to enjoy the route as often as they please throughout the year.
Detailed questions and clarifications specific to this event are provided in the Go Deep or Go Home FAQ.
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Thanks!
Our hope is to make this event totally self-supporting. In other words, do all of the organization beforehand and also participate. This would be an impossible dream without a lot of behind the scenes help.
If you'd like to support the Go Deep or Go Home in some way, we'd love to have you onboard. At the very least, we can promise you a place on this Thank You page!
Please contact us with your thoughts on how you'd like to participate.
Many thanks to:
| Kintec Footlabs Thank you for the awesome recognition prizes. |
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TrailRunner: Thank you for the 2 gift subscriptions to your popular magazine as draw prize. Also for offering members of Club Fat Ass a special discounted subscription price |
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| KINeSYS: Thanks for the assortment of body and sun care products to keep all participants protected from the elements. |
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| Mosquito Creek Bar & Grill:Thanks
to Manager Kelly Nielson, all Fat Asses who showed up to the finisher
party were offered a pint on the house! |
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| Club Fat Ass: Club Fat Ass helps the race with web hosting, online registration and coaches us on how to host a safe, fun, environmentally-friendly event. |
FAQ
| Q: | I've never done a trail run before. Is this a good place to start? |
| A: | It's a toughie, but if you can run a 1/2 marathon on the road and are comfortable carrying your own food and water, you should be good for at least a lap. (Each lap is 20 kilometers.) |
| Q: | Do I need to print off course instructions and bring them with me? |
| A: | Yes. Otherwise, we guarantee you will get lost! |
| Q: | What if I get lost? |
| A: | You shouldn't get lost! Follow the route directions. If you do feel you are lost, ask a mountain biker or backtrack to the last place you saw a runner. |
| Q: | What if I have to heed the call of nature. |
| A: | There is a public washroom at the start/finish in Panorama Park. If you have to go on the trail, be discreet, do your business at least 10 meters from the trail and bury anything solid at least 10 cm deep. |
| Q: | What should I bring on race day? |
| A: | Please check the agenda for thoughts |
| Q: | I am supposed to be self-sufficient because there is no aid provided. Can I get a friend to come out and give me food and drink along the route? |
| A: | Absolutely! In fact, it would be nice if your friend were to help everyone. See aid stations and crew for some thoughts on what they might be able to do. |
| Q: | Where can I park? Where can I change? |
| A: | There is parking at Panorama Park. In the morning you should find a spot without problem. Later the parking lot tends to be full. There is a public washroom with change facilities and an outdoor shower (cold). |
Course
Please print out the course description and put them into a zip-lock baggie for the event (scroll down for a printer friendly version). I strongly encourage you and your friends to run the course in training. The course will not be marked.This route description was completed on September 30, 2004. There are lots of slippery roots to slip on and the terrain is quite technical and hilly. The course consists of a 20km trail loop with a challenging climb in the first half of the loop. The signs are a variation of triangular Baden Powell (BP) trail markers, orange squares on trees and wooden post with trail names and directions on them.
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